Waver for Robotics to use the ham bands

Patrick Gray patgperiod at gmail.com
Mon Mar 1 12:34:41 CST 2010


Would that "move to the right" of the dial. That takes us up to the 900 MHz
band!

Pat KF4MTV

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Alex Fraser <beatnic at comcast.net> wrote:

>  There is a history of exclusion in this hobby,  just keep moving to the
> right and you won't have to worry about nothing.
>
> Patrick Gray wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> I fully concur. This feeling of "win some - lose some" means you will lose
> every time.
>
>      After having dealt with the "Mike and Kevin show" at the FCC
> commissioner level AKA "Dumb and Dumber" we (ARRL) should have understood
> the value of radio spectrum and formed a real PAC to protect Ham Radio
> interests. The FCC is mostly lawyer-centric anymore.
>
>     The NRA realized this 25 years ago, having played "on the level" in the
> present political landscape will 'eat you alive'.  I'll bet if Barry K7UGA
> Goldwater were still around, the FCC would have thought much longer and
> harder about this decision. The ARRL was receiving a lot of benefit from
> K7UGA's prominence in the senate. Had the NRA not gone this route, we would
> be having to license ownership of slingshots by now.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pat KF4MTV
>
> Feb 28, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Mike O'Dell <mo at ccr.org> wrote:
>
>> The FCC made its decision on BPL despite ARRL's efforts, too.
>> The League needs to be willing to exploit the legal system
>> to its maximum advantage just like every other group
>> trying to protect their position.
>>
>> I was heartened by the League's willingness to go after the BPL
>> issue and this is just one more.
>>
>> For eons now, the League has tried very hard to be friends
>> with the FCC and did surprisingly well for a long time.
>> while I'm not suggesting trying to piss them off gratuitously,
>> the League needs to be more assertive about commanding respect
>> and abandoning submissive dependency. the other guys that
>> operate in front of the FCC are quite willing to deal off
>> the bottom of the deck, and the League needs to be willing
>> "put their gun on the table" when people need reminding.
>>
>> i realize this is terribly hard for geeks to do, many of
>> the conflict averse in spite of what you hear on 75 meters,
>> but if we don't start playing by the rules of the day,
>> we won't be playing much longer. and at that point, it
>> will be our fault, not the nasty other bad guys.
>>
>>     -mo
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/28/10 6:04 AM, Paul L Rinaldo wrote:
>>
>>> André, et al,
>>>
>>> The FCC has made its decision despite ARRL's efforts over the past
>>> couple of years to keep this out of the ham band. I don't see any chance
>>> of overturning it.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> At 04:19 PM 2/27/2010, andre kesteloot wrote:
>>>
>>>> Paul,
>>>> Should we (AMRAD) or you (forcefully) bring this item to the attention
>>>> of the FCC ?
>>>> André
>>>>
>>>> Patrick Gray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tom,
>>>>>
>>>>> No doubt this happened under the previous republican president we
>>>>> only have to look at BPL to see that. But to declare the Amateur
>>>>> (meaning non-profit/unpaid) service as a non-emergency service what
>>>>> with happened in Haiti a month ago (generations of history) and what
>>>>> is transpiring in the East Pacific region as we speak - unprecedented!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>> If it was easy, we'd be buying it from somebody else!"
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