<div dir="ltr"> Loran-C was the predecessor to GPS for network timing, used by major Telecoms Networks as a backup to GPS. <div><br></div><div>Not just used by sailors or fishermen. The Russians still maintain their Soviet era Chayka system. I was told by a friend in Alaska that American commercial fishermen in that region have sourced equipment that runs the Chayka system.</div><div><br></div><div>Pat KF4MTV</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Richard Spargur <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:k3ui@comcast.net" target="_blank">k3ui@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="#954F72"><div class="m_2880110946804434625WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">Interesting, what will they do next? Maybe a sailor standing on the deck with two flags. A camera could still be used to capture the transmission if it was necessary. </p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">More interesting for me is what is the need for this that something else already in existence can’t be used for except for covert comms.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Richard</p><p class="MsoNormal">K3UI</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" target="_blank">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:radiodog77@pobox.com" target="_blank">Nan and Sandy Sanders</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, August 7, 2017 10:46 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:wfenn4@verizon.net" target="_blank">William Fenn</a>; <a href="mailto:tacos@amrad.org" target="_blank">TACOS</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: FW: Remember LORAN? It may be coming back.</p></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">It looks like Morse code may not be dead in the Navy but with a twist.</p><p class="MsoNormal"> <a href="http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a27391/us-navy-morse-code-software/" target="_blank">http://www.popularmechanics.<wbr>com/military/navy-ships/<wbr>a27391/us-navy-morse-code-<wbr>software/</a> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Celestial Navigation has sort of just come back.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.npr.org/2016/02/22/467210492/u-s-navy-brings-back-navigation-by-the-stars-for-officers" target="_blank">http://www.npr.org/2016/02/22/<wbr>467210492/u-s-navy-brings-<wbr>back-navigation-by-the-stars-<wbr>for-officers</a> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> Sandy</p><p class="MsoNormal"> WB5MMB</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">At 07:49 PM 8/7/2017, William Fenn wrote:</p><p class="MsoNormal">>Has anyone thought of what would happen in the </p><p class="MsoNormal">>event of war? One of the first things to </p><p class="MsoNormal">>disappear would be satellites and this lead to </p><p class="MsoNormal">>ships bumping into each other. With this in </p><p class="MsoNormal">>mind “old world methods such as watchers in </p><p class="MsoNormal">>“Crow’s Nest†and sextants†may become </p><p class="MsoNormal">>very important†since GPS receivers might not </p><p class="MsoNormal">>work. Who knows, we may even need to resurrect </p><p class="MsoNormal">>radio operators and the Morse code.Â</p><p class="MsoNormal">><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>From: Tacos </p><p class="MsoNormal">>[mailto:<a href="mailto:tacos-bounces%2Bwfenn4" target="_blank">tacos-bounces+wfenn4</a>=<a href="mailto:verizon.net@amrad.org" target="_blank"><wbr>verizon.net@amrad.org</a>] </p><p class="MsoNormal">>On Behalf Of Richard O'Neill</p><p class="MsoNormal">>Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 4:00 PM</p><p class="MsoNormal">>To: <a href="mailto:tacos@amrad.org" target="_blank">tacos@amrad.org</a></p><p class="MsoNormal">>Subject: Re: Remember LORAN? It may be coming back.</p><p class="MsoNormal">><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">> Apparently not anytime soon.</p><p class="MsoNormal">><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">> "Despite plans to implement eLoran </p><p class="MsoNormal">> <<a href="https://rntfnd.org/wp-content/uploads/NSPD-39-Fact-Sheet.pdf" target="_blank">https://rntfnd.org/wp-<wbr>content/uploads/NSPD-39-Fact-<wbr>Sheet.pdf</a>>dating </p><p class="MsoNormal">> back to the Bush administration in 2004, it has </p><p class="MsoNormal">> been stymied by a mixture of cost (an expensive </p><p class="MsoNormal">> network of transmitters that serve only shipping) and political inertia."</p><p class="MsoNormal">><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">> In the meantime we could employ old world </p><p class="MsoNormal">> methods such as watchers in 'Crow's Nests' and sextants. :-P</p><p class="MsoNormal">><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>Anon</p><p class="MsoNormal">><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>_____________________________<wbr>__________________ </p><p class="MsoNormal">>Tacos mailing list <a href="mailto:Tacos@amrad.org" target="_blank">Tacos@amrad.org</a> </p><p class="MsoNormal">><a href="https://lists.amrad.org/mailman/listinfo/tacos" target="_blank">https://lists.amrad.org/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/tacos</a></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">______________________________<wbr>_________________</p><p class="MsoNormal">Tacos mailing list</p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:Tacos@amrad.org" target="_blank">Tacos@amrad.org</a></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://lists.amrad.org/mailman/listinfo/tacos" target="_blank">https://lists.amrad.org/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/tacos</a></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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