<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">And Loran was defunded, with the towers dismantled (<a href="http://www.loran-history.info/port_clarence/DSC_51151.jpg">http://www.loran-history.info/port_clarence/DSC_51151.jpg</a> </span><span style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><a href="http://www.loran-history.info/port_clarence/port_clarence.htm">http://www.loran-history.info/port_clarence/port_clarence.htm</a>) to save $36M a year, only to realize that we really needed a backup to GPS. The restart costs - - measured in $B. It is sad enough to decommission these systems, but it is even harder to se them demolished.</span><br><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:00 AM Mark Whittington <<a href="mailto:markwhi@gmail.com">markwhi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">It'd be nice if CSU or some other .edu / .org can pick up the hardware and licenses and keep it running.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 6:58 AM, Rob Seastrom <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rs@seastrom.com" target="_blank">rs@seastrom.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div><br></div><div>Looks like WWV, WWVB, and WWVH are endangered species. :(</div><div><br></div><div>-r</div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="m_6579294504684438215m_-6564310063907416634Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">"Robert LaJeunesse" <<a href="mailto:lajeunesse@mail.com" target="_blank">lajeunesse@mail.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>Re: [time-nuts] NIST</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">August 10, 2018 at 3:45:20 PM EDT<br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:time-nuts@lists.febo.com" target="_blank">time-nuts@lists.febo.com</a><br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <<a href="mailto:time-nuts@lists.febo.com" target="_blank">time-nuts@lists.febo.com</a>><br></span></div><br><div><div>I'd say it does get more detailed, with the $49M in cuts described generally in groups here:<br><br><a href="https://www.nist.gov/director/fy-2019-presidential-budget-request-summary/fundamental-measurement-quantum-science-and" target="_blank">https://www.nist.gov/director/fy-2019-presidential-budget-request-summary/fundamental-measurement-quantum-science-and</a><br><br>One item: "-$6.3 million supporting fundamental measurement dissemination, including the shutdown of NIST radio stations in Colorado and Hawaii"<br><br>Looks like some of your friends might be looking for work. Not good.<br><br>Bob L.<br><br><br><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 at 3:11 PM<br>From: "Magnus Danielson" <<a href="mailto:magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org" target="_blank">magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:time-nuts@lists.febo.com" target="_blank">time-nuts@lists.febo.com</a><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:magnus@rubidium.se" target="_blank">magnus@rubidium.se</a><br>Subject: Re: [time-nuts] NIST<br><br>Bert,<br><br>The closes I come is this, burried in the line of Funamental Measurements:<br><a href="https://www.nist.gov/fy-2019-presidential-budget-request-summary/budget-tables" target="_blank">https://www.nist.gov/fy-2019-presidential-budget-request-summary/budget-tables</a><br><br>It doesn't get more detailed than that.<br><br>The T&F work is relatively small group in the big NIST.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Magnus<br><br>On 08/10/2018 08:29 PM, ew via time-nuts wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"> <br>NIST total budget for 2017 was close to 965 Million, I was curios trying to find out what the Time and Frequency Division portion was. 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