<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Balint Seeber gave great presentation on direction finding: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSC4Y8yA-jY">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSC4Y8yA-jY</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">And here is his page with links to additional resources: <a href="https://wiki.spench.net/wiki/SDRDF">https://wiki.spench.net/wiki/SDRDF</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Jacek</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">kw4ep</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 7:55 PM Martin <<a href="mailto:dcmk1mr2@gmail.com">dcmk1mr2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">FWIW I'm building an updated "Roanoke" direction finder:   

<a href="https://hackaday.io/project/163957-yet-another-doppler-direction-finder-w-teensy-dsp" target="_blank">https://hackaday.io/project/163957-yet-another-doppler-direction-finder-w-teensy-dsp</a><div><br></div><div>Martin</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 2:12 PM Alex Fraser <<a href="mailto:beatnic@comcast.net" target="_blank">beatnic@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>I found one article talking about pseudo Doppler.  <br>
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    <p><a class="gmail-m_-3321422093656407740gmail-m_-8324776519423221325moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://hackaday.com/2018/01/23/shmoocon-delightful-doppler-direction-finding-with-software-defined-radio/" target="_blank">https://hackaday.com/2018/01/23/shmoocon-delightful-doppler-direction-finding-with-software-defined-radio/</a></p>
    <p>Following some of the links they mention the need to have fast
      antenna switching due to the short bursty traffic.</p>
    <p>Their special board to do the switching was called opera cake. 
      To deal with the spread it looked like you had to view a waterfall
      display and do <br>
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    <p>some advanced between the ears processing.  I probably won't get
      any further than looking.  I did see some commercial rigs, but for
      some reason <br>
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    <p>they didn't want to tell you too much.   <br>
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    <div class="gmail-m_-3321422093656407740gmail-m_-8324776519423221325moz-cite-prefix">On 3/20/2019 6:06 PM, Jacek Radzikowski
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Using regular radio
              for DFing a wifi transmitter is not such a good idea. The
              channels overlap, higher data rate transmissions use
              spectrum spanning several channels, and many stations
              transmit on the same frequency, so with a plain received
              you will hear a cacophony of sounds, making it almost
              impossible to find the station you're looking for. <br>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">You will get much
              better results using a good wifi card with SMA connector
              (Alfa cards are great for 2.4G band) with a directional
              external antenna and airmon-ng from Aircrack-ng package to
              monitor signal strength for the station you are interested
              in.</div>
            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Don't buy those
              cheap 2.4G yagis from ebay or amazon. They are junk.
              You'll get much better results with a home-made cantenna,
              orheck Andrew Mcneil's channel on youtube if you need some
              inspiration: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHqwzhcFOsoFFh33Uy8rAgQ" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHqwzhcFOsoFFh33Uy8rAgQ</a></div>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Regards,<br>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Jacek</div>
            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">kw4ep<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 5:18
          PM Martin <<a href="mailto:dcmk1mr2@gmail.com" target="_blank">dcmk1mr2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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            <div>WiFi features short packets.  You can tune in on an
              access point and hear the clicks.  You could try with a
              highly directional yagi or time of arrival rig.</div>
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            <div>BTW <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Transmitter-Hunting-Direction-Finding-Simplified/dp/0830627014/ref=asc_df_0830627014/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312126345020&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=18402996747497945190&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032081&hvtargid=pla-569092361693&psc=1" target="_blank">Transmitter
                Hunting</a> is highly recommended but is mostly VHF. </div>
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            <div>73 Martin W6MRR</div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at
              1:55 PM Alex Fraser <<a href="mailto:beatnic@comcast.net" target="_blank">beatnic@comcast.net</a>>
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                <p>Is it possible to find a WIFI station with direction
                  finding?<br>
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