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    <p>Hmm so it is a PID controlled microwave heater of a 3D solid more
      or less ??</p>
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    <p>Bill<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/27/19 11:50 AM, Alex Fraser wrote:<br>
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      <font face="Comic Sans MS">Looking around it seems you could own
        one for $5k for a consumer model. As I said the only thing
        keeping me from getting one is the price. I've learned to cook
        with the current microwave technology.  I've learned the tricks
        and have reached the limits.  I now do hybrid cooking using both
        the klystron oven, gas heated convection oven and naked flame
        burner under a pot or pan.  <br>
        I think what will happen is some group will raise the capital to
        build a plant to produce the key device at a good price on a
        large scale and then in a couple of years everyone will have
        one.  There are still a few people left using CRT standard
        definition TV's (with converters), but they are getting rare
        these days.<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/27/2019 1:34 AM, Richard Barth
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          <div dir="auto">The article mentions that the probable first
            use of the things will be in the commercial market, with
            consumers following after. I still have the first microwave
            oven I ever bought for a hundred bucks or so, and it's still
            performing flawlessly. How much do these solid state gizmos
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            <div class="elided-text">On Jun 27, 2019 12:00 AM, Alex
              Fraser <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
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                <div> <font face="Comic Sans MS">It could be we are at
                    the point were the first to market a new device goes
                    bust and a few years later every one has one or
                    perhaps<br>
                    it is a case of the rich getting it first and the
                    technology trickles down?<br>
                    Solid State Microwave ovens are in the market now.
                    They ain't cheap, which is all that keeps me from
                    having one.<br>
                    In this promo page they cook a piece of fish inside
                    a block of ice.<br>
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                    You should do a search "solid state microwave oven"
                    as there are a few hits worth reading.  <br>
                    The basic idea is multiple 250 watt solid state
                    microwave sources arranged around a cavity.  They
                    are individually frequency agile and their  power
                    levels can also be controlled individually.  There
                    are sensors which monitor the foods reaction to the
                    energy.  The sensors report to a computer and the
                    computer uses algorithms to control frequencies,
                    power and phasing, even different modulation
                    methods.  It's a loop. <br>
                       <a
href="https://www.electronicdesign.com/power/here-comes-solid-state-rf-energy-evolution"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.electronicdesign.com/power/here-comes-solid-state-rf-energy-evolution</a><br>
                    <a href="https://youtu.be/fg-UtHjkkfM"
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                  <div>On 6/26/2019 5:54 PM, Phil via Tacos wrote:<br>
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                  <blockquote> Living in that sorry backwater of
                    technology (Britain), |’d never heard of such a
                    thing as a solid-state microwave oven. Tell me more!
                    All I know is that I took a busted six-year-old
                    microwave apart last year and it yielded no useful
                    parts for future projects whatsoever. I felt
                    cheated!
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                    <div>Phil M1GWZ</div>
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                              <p>Has anyone bought one of the new solid
                                state microwave ovens?  What do you
                                think?<br>
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