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<DIV>Hey Martin an others,</DIV>
<DIV>The manufacturers tools ARE complex and off-putting to us newbies.
But, I do agree with many of the comments on the hackaday story, I really
dislike this “everything on the cloud” thinking. I have enough problems
with Internet access at times, or am not at home, or ??? that I want my tools
locally on my machine. I notice that it says there are tools that can be
used offline, no sure how good they are. Plus, I have AT&T for cell
service, which really sucks here, and if I don’t have home Internet, my cell is
worthless.....</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>One SHOULD start with a simple board and limited I/O to learn basic
concepts. Some of them are as cheap as an Arduino or Raspberry Pi, so no
great monetary loss. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You can also design FPGA programming using hardware-like design tools
instead or Verilog or VHDL, making blocks and interconnecting them much like
schematic design.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>BTW, I have a MiniZed I just purchased, not MicroZED. IIRC, it was
under $80. I’ve been more into the Xilinx camp, mostly due to the
Charleston SDR board using the Digilent Nexys 2 FPGA board. Most other
hams are using Altera FPGA boards for SDR.... I always seem to get 50-50
chances wrong!!!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I’m thinking of getting the better Papilio FPGA board, but that would be to
allow FPGA 8080/Z80/CP/M emulation. I need more CP/M systems.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Living life in the 70s and 80s, listening to Emerson, Lake, and
Palmer....</DIV>
<DIV>73, Terry, N4TLF</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=dcmk1mr2@gmail.com>Martin</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 14, 2020 5:08 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=samudra.haque@gmail.com>Samudra Haque</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=n4tlf@wb4jfi.com>Terry N4TLF</A> ; <A
title=tacos@amrad.org>Tacos</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: anyone with a entry level FPGA development board (VHDL
support) they don't need?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>You are making extra work for yourself going Intel or Xilinx.
Those design tools support a large variety of FPGAs - some of which are very
large and complex and cost what a house goes for. You project requires a
small, simple FPGA. Do you want to spend your time leaning a proprietary
tool chain or the FPGA basics?
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><A
href="https://hackaday.com/2019/07/05/bringing-fpga-development-to-the-masses/">https://hackaday.com/2019/07/05/bringing-fpga-development-to-the-masses/</A> <BR>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>--Martin </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>
<DIV class=gmail_attr dir=ltr>On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 1:37 PM <<A
target=_blank>samudra.haque@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Wow, I am learning a lot thanks to Taco’s forums. I regret
not paying attention to FPGA world earlier. I just sat through 30 minutes of a
free training course on Intel’s website: and a wholesome review of a tutorial
using the flow chart shown below – and it would I am most sure at this point,
be easy for me to replicate my manually designed electric rocket subsystem
(see pics from 2015) control system, into an FPGA version down to the 10 uS
synthetic reprogrammable timebase I had to design, to validate my multi-rocket
synchronization routines – I honestly was just paying attention to the
physics, and not to the EE techniques then. <U></U><U></U></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U></U><U></U> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Back then I was using Netburner hardware, and wholly
customized PCB, with IGBT power switches and ~40 amp transient discharges from
an inductive energy storage system I calculated manually. Well --- an FPGA
containing a soft-core MCU, some external switches, RTOS application (the same
possibly that I used in the RTOS of Netburner environment) and some barebones
serial comms seem to be practical to implement with these methods, …. And I
may be able to develop new control processes and drive other elements ..
without much delay ! Perhaps even use the onboard NIOS II DSP section to do
mod/demod ? BTW, I liked the training material 100 and 200 level FPGA courses
on the intel website, free with registration. Like: <A
href="https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/programmable/support/training/catalog.html?keywords=nios"
target=_blank>https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/programmable/support/training/catalog.html?keywords=nios</A><U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From:</B> Terry N4TLF <<A
target=_blank>n4tlf@wb4jfi.com</A>> <BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 14,
2020 12:54 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A target=_blank>samudra.haque@gmail.com</A>;
'Martin' <<A target=_blank>dcmk1mr2@gmail.com</A>><BR><B>Cc:</B> 'Tacos'
<<A target=_blank>tacos@amrad.org</A>><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: anyone
with a entry level FPGA development board (VHDL support) they don't
need?<U></U><U></U></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><U></U><U></U> </P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black">Here are
a couple of books that might be of interest regarding
Verilog:<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black">This book
is interesting, and a little bit different. It doesn’t require actual
hardware for most of it’s content. I bought the Kindle
version.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black"><A
title=https://www.amazon.com/Designing-Video-Game-Hardware-Verilog-ebook/dp/B07LD48CTV/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203304&sr=8-5
href="https://www.amazon.com/Designing-Video-Game-Hardware-Verilog-ebook/dp/B07LD48CTV/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203304&sr=8-5"
target=_blank>https://www.amazon.com/Designing-Video-Game-Hardware-Verilog-ebook/dp/B07LD48CTV/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203304&sr=8-5</A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black">THe title
is accurate: a Concise guide to be sure. Again, not tied to any
hardware, and somewhat light on details. Fairly
thin.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black"><A
title=https://www.amazon.com/Verilog-Example-Concise-Introduction-Design/dp/0983497303/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203528&sr=8-1
href="https://www.amazon.com/Verilog-Example-Concise-Introduction-Design/dp/0983497303/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203528&sr=8-1"
target=_blank>https://www.amazon.com/Verilog-Example-Concise-Introduction-Design/dp/0983497303/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203528&sr=8-1</A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black">I have
the Kindle version of this book. It uses a few specific
boards.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black"><A
title=https://www.amazon.com/Programming-FPGAs-Getting-Started-Verilog-ebook/dp/B01M0F1L5G/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203803&sr=8-2
href="https://www.amazon.com/Programming-FPGAs-Getting-Started-Verilog-ebook/dp/B01M0F1L5G/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203803&sr=8-2"
target=_blank>https://www.amazon.com/Programming-FPGAs-Getting-Started-Verilog-ebook/dp/B01M0F1L5G/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203803&sr=8-2</A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black">THis is
more expensive, I have the paper version. It has the most of my
bookmarks of any book I have. That says it
all.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black"><A
title=https://www.amazon.com/Embedded-Design-Using-Programmable-Arrays/dp/1589094867/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Embedded+design+using+Programmable&qid=1584204048&sr=8-1
href="https://www.amazon.com/Embedded-Design-Using-Programmable-Arrays/dp/1589094867/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Embedded+design+using+Programmable&qid=1584204048&sr=8-1"
target=_blank>https://www.amazon.com/Embedded-Design-Using-Programmable-Arrays/dp/1589094867/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Embedded+design+using+Programmable&qid=1584204048&sr=8-1</A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black">There are
several other books that I have. Like many other technical references,
there is not ONE single book that is best.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black">I have
used the Papilio and Digilent FPGA boards (among others) to help me learn most
of what I have now forgotten, regarding FPGAs. I now have some newer
boards boards based on Zynq FPGAs, such as the Red Pitaya, a MicroZed, and
others. These are MUCH more powerful, but also much more
complicated. My brain hurts whenever I delve into
them.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black">73,
Terry, N4TLF<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR: black"> <A
target=_blank>samudra.haque@gmail.com</A> <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR: black">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR: black"> Friday,
March 13, 2020 8:42 PM<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR: black">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR: black">
'Martin' <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR: black">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR: black"> 'Tacos'
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR: black">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif; COLOR: black"> RE:
anyone with a entry level FPGA development board (VHDL support) they don't
need?<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Hi Martin, thanks for the tip. I
went looking for the board you recommended from Lattice (it’s offered at a
good price) but if I am not mistaken, it doesn’t have any peripherals such as
switches for onboard experiments? The photos show it comes with LEDs,
but no switches.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Then I went looking for the
icestorm documentation and it seems they ship from UK (the blackice boards) so
despite those development boards being chock full of accessories for
experimentation, the shipping delay and cost sort of makes it
expensive.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">So, randomly I searched and came
across (comments requested) <B>for about $43.85 total with
shipping</B>:<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A
href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/STEP-MAX10-Intel-Altera-FPGA-development-board/143318504573?hash=item215e72d47d%3Ag%3AlcQAAOSwARpdGDCw&LH_BO=1"
target=_blank>https://www.ebay.com/itm/STEP-MAX10-Intel-Altera-FPGA-development-board/143318504573?hash=item215e72d47d%3Ag%3AlcQAAOSwARpdGDCw&LH_BO=1</A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">and according to the website <A
href="http://www.stepfpga.org/step-max10-development-board/"
target=_blank>http://www.stepfpga.org/step-max10-development-board/</A>
it is fully supported by:<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">Altera MAX10 FPGA: 10M02/10M08<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">On
board USB Blaster programming circuit<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">2-character 7-segment display<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Two
RGB LEDs<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Four
switches<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Four
push buttons<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Eight
user LEDs<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Power
from MicroUSB connector<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">40
pins DIP connector with 36 User I/Os<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in"><U></U><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: symbol; COLOR: rgb(26,26,26)"><SPAN>·<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><U></U><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif; COLOR: rgb(26,26,26)"><A
href="https://github.com/stepfpga/STEP-MAX10/blob/master/docs/STEP-MAX10%20Hardware%20Manual%201.0.pdf"
target=_blank><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(104,104,104)">STEP-MAX10 Hardware Manual
1.0</SPAN></A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in"><U></U><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: symbol; COLOR: rgb(26,26,26)"><SPAN>·<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><U></U><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif; COLOR: rgb(26,26,26)"><A
href="https://github.com/stepfpga/STEP-MAX10/blob/master/docs/STEP-MAX10%20Software%20Manual%201.0.pdf"
target=_blank><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(0,122,204)">STEP-MAX10 Software Manual
1.0</SPAN></A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in"><U></U><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: symbol; COLOR: rgb(26,26,26)"><SPAN>·<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><U></U><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif; COLOR: rgb(26,26,26)"><A
href="https://pan.baidu.com/s/1guMNzIYx2Q4sUGhQ1pSUvg" target=_blank><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(0,122,204)">STEP-MAX10 Source
Code</SPAN></A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in"><U></U><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: symbol; COLOR: rgb(26,26,26)"><SPAN>·<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><U></U><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif; COLOR: rgb(26,26,26)"><A
href="https://github.com/stepfpga/STEP-MAX10/blob/master/docs/STEP-MAX10%20Schematic.pdf"
target=_blank><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(0,122,204)">STEP-MAX10 Schematic
diagram</SPAN></A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in"><U></U><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: symbol; COLOR: rgb(26,26,26)"><SPAN>·<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><U></U><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif; COLOR: rgb(26,26,26)"><A
href="http://fpgasoftware.intel.com/?edition=pro" target=_blank><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(0,122,204)">Software&Tools</SPAN></A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">The software suite is … Altera
(Microsoft) Quartus Prime Lite, which includes ModelSim for soft logic
analyzer waveform output … and supports Verilog and VHDL. I think that could
be ok for mid-level developers, right?<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">But since the documentation says
“<B>On board JTAG programming circuit</B>”, is an actual JTAG gadget still
necessary for this device, or is that functionality already included
somehow?<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> Martin <<A target=_blank>dcmk1mr2@gmail.com</A>>
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 13, 2020 7:26 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Samudra Haque
<<A target=_blank>samudra.haque@gmail.com</A>><BR><B>Cc:</B> Tacos
<<A target=_blank>tacos@amrad.org</A>><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: anyone
with a entry level FPGA development board (VHDL support) they don't
need?<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">You might want to take a look
at <A
href="https://www.amazon.com/LATTICE-SEMICONDUCTOR-ICE40HX1K-STICK-EVN-Evaluation-iCE40HX1K/dp/B00R3QU9K0"
target=_blank>https://www.amazon.com/LATTICE-SEMICONDUCTOR-ICE40HX1K-STICK-EVN-Evaluation-iCE40HX1K/dp/B00R3QU9K0</A>
for a board and do a google search for Windows iceStorm support. The are
more expensive FPGAs from Intel/Altera amd Xilinx but the tool chains are
awful.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">You also might want to check to
see if you really want to invest in VHDL or if Verilog might be better for
your needs. It doesn't hurt to know both but Verilog is more like C and
is less trouble to learn.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Learning to simulate is a really
import skill for FPGA development so you can get started with that before you
have hardware.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">73 Martin
W6MRR<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 3:50 PM
<<A target=_blank>samudra.haque@gmail.com</A>>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I would like to do an
experiment with an FPGA development board. I’m looking for something with
pinouts or with a switch + LED; My experience with VHDL is very limited. I
will be using Windows 10 for my development environment.
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">If anyone has a board they
don’t need, would you be willing to sell it at a Tippy’s Taco’s meetup to
me? Send me the product manufacturer part number and your ask to <A
target=_blank>samudra.haque@gmail.com</A>. <U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Also, if I had no FPGA board,
is there a emulator environment that I can compile the code and get a
testbench / diagram of the signals? At least I could begin coding /
developing the framework right away.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">73 de Samudra
N3RDX<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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