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<DIV>Here are a couple of books that might be of interest regarding
Verilog:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This book is interesting, and a little bit different. It doesn’t
require actual hardware for most of it’s content. I bought the Kindle
version.</DIV>
<DIV><A
title=https://www.amazon.com/Designing-Video-Game-Hardware-Verilog-ebook/dp/B07LD48CTV/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203304&sr=8-5
href="https://www.amazon.com/Designing-Video-Game-Hardware-Verilog-ebook/dp/B07LD48CTV/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203304&sr=8-5">https://www.amazon.com/Designing-Video-Game-Hardware-Verilog-ebook/dp/B07LD48CTV/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203304&sr=8-5</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>THe title is accurate: a Concise guide to be sure. Again, not tied to
any hardware, and somewhat light on details. Fairly thin.</DIV>
<DIV><A
title=https://www.amazon.com/Verilog-Example-Concise-Introduction-Design/dp/0983497303/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203528&sr=8-1
href="https://www.amazon.com/Verilog-Example-Concise-Introduction-Design/dp/0983497303/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203528&sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Verilog-Example-Concise-Introduction-Design/dp/0983497303/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203528&sr=8-1</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have the Kindle version of this book. It uses a few specific
boards.</DIV>
<DIV><A
title=https://www.amazon.com/Programming-FPGAs-Getting-Started-Verilog-ebook/dp/B01M0F1L5G/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203803&sr=8-2
href="https://www.amazon.com/Programming-FPGAs-Getting-Started-Verilog-ebook/dp/B01M0F1L5G/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203803&sr=8-2">https://www.amazon.com/Programming-FPGAs-Getting-Started-Verilog-ebook/dp/B01M0F1L5G/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=verilog+book&qid=1584203803&sr=8-2</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>THis is more expensive, I have the paper version. It has the most of
my bookmarks of any book I have. That says it all.</DIV>
<DIV><A
title=https://www.amazon.com/Embedded-Design-Using-Programmable-Arrays/dp/1589094867/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Embedded+design+using+Programmable&qid=1584204048&sr=8-1
href="https://www.amazon.com/Embedded-Design-Using-Programmable-Arrays/dp/1589094867/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Embedded+design+using+Programmable&qid=1584204048&sr=8-1">https://www.amazon.com/Embedded-Design-Using-Programmable-Arrays/dp/1589094867/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Embedded+design+using+Programmable&qid=1584204048&sr=8-1</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There are several other books that I have. Like many other technical
references, there is not ONE single book that is best.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have used the Papilio and Digilent FPGA boards (among others) to help me
learn most of what I have now forgotten, regarding FPGAs. I now have some
newer boards boards based on Zynq FPGAs, such as the Red Pitaya, a MicroZed, and
others. These are MUCH more powerful, but also much more
complicated. My brain hurts whenever I delve into them.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>73, Terry, N4TLF</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=samudra.haque@gmail.com>samudra.haque@gmail.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 13, 2020 8:42 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=dcmk1mr2@gmail.com>'Martin'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=tacos@amrad.org>'Tacos'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: anyone with a entry level FPGA development board (VHDL
support) they don't need?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Hi Martin, thanks for the tip. I went looking for the board
you recommended from Lattice (it’s offered at a good price) but if I am not
mistaken, it doesn’t have any peripherals such as switches for onboard
experiments? The photos show it comes with LEDs, but no switches.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Then I went looking for the icestorm documentation and it
seems they ship from UK (the blackice boards) so despite those development
boards being chock full of accessories for experimentation, the shipping delay
and cost sort of makes it expensive.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>So, randomly I searched and came across (comments requested)
<B>for about $43.85 total with shipping</B>:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><A
href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/STEP-MAX10-Intel-Altera-FPGA-development-board/143318504573?hash=item215e72d47d%3Ag%3AlcQAAOSwARpdGDCw&LH_BO=1">https://www.ebay.com/itm/STEP-MAX10-Intel-Altera-FPGA-development-board/143318504573?hash=item215e72d47d%3Ag%3AlcQAAOSwARpdGDCw&LH_BO=1</A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>and according to the website <A
href="http://www.stepfpga.org/step-max10-development-board/">http://www.stepfpga.org/step-max10-development-board/</A>
it is fully supported by:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">Altera MAX10 FPGA:
10M02/10M08<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">On board USB Blaster programming
circuit<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">2-character 7-segment
display<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">Two RGB LEDs<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">Four switches<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">Four push buttons<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">Eight user LEDs<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">Power from MicroUSB
connector<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">40 pins DIP connector with 36 User
I/Os<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
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href="https://github.com/stepfpga/STEP-MAX10/blob/master/docs/STEP-MAX10%20Hardware%20Manual%201.0.pdf"><SPAN
style="COLOR: #686868">STEP-MAX10 Hardware Manual
1.0</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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href="https://github.com/stepfpga/STEP-MAX10/blob/master/docs/STEP-MAX10%20Software%20Manual%201.0.pdf"><SPAN
style="COLOR: #007acc">STEP-MAX10 Software Manual
1.0</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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href="https://pan.baidu.com/s/1guMNzIYx2Q4sUGhQ1pSUvg"><SPAN
style="COLOR: #007acc">STEP-MAX10 Source Code</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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href="https://github.com/stepfpga/STEP-MAX10/blob/master/docs/STEP-MAX10%20Schematic.pdf"><SPAN
style="COLOR: #007acc">STEP-MAX10 Schematic
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href="http://fpgasoftware.intel.com/?edition=pro"><SPAN
style="COLOR: #007acc">Software&Tools</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>The software suite is … Altera (Microsoft) Quartus Prime
Lite, which includes ModelSim for soft logic analyzer waveform output … and
supports Verilog and VHDL. I think that could be ok for mid-level developers,
right?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>But since the documentation says “<B>On board JTAG
programming circuit</B>”, is an actual JTAG gadget still necessary for this
device, or is that functionality already included somehow?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From:</B> Martin <dcmk1mr2@gmail.com>
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 13, 2020 7:26 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Samudra Haque
<samudra.haque@gmail.com><BR><B>Cc:</B> Tacos
<tacos@amrad.org><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: anyone with a entry level FPGA
development board (VHDL support) they don't need?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>You might want to take a look at <A
href="https://www.amazon.com/LATTICE-SEMICONDUCTOR-ICE40HX1K-STICK-EVN-Evaluation-iCE40HX1K/dp/B00R3QU9K0">https://www.amazon.com/LATTICE-SEMICONDUCTOR-ICE40HX1K-STICK-EVN-Evaluation-iCE40HX1K/dp/B00R3QU9K0</A>
for a board and do a google search for Windows iceStorm support. The are
more expensive FPGAs from Intel/Altera amd Xilinx but the tool chains are
awful.<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>You also might want to check to see if you really want to
invest in VHDL or if Verilog might be better for your needs. It doesn't
hurt to know both but Verilog is more like C and is less trouble to
learn.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Learning to simulate is a really import skill for FPGA
development so you can get started with that before you have
hardware.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>73 Martin W6MRR<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 3:50 PM
<<A>samudra.haque@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">I would like to
do an experiment with an FPGA development board. I’m looking for something
with pinouts or with a switch + LED; My experience with VHDL is very limited.
I will be using Windows 10 for my development environment. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">If anyone has a
board they don’t need, would you be willing to sell it at a Tippy’s Taco’s
meetup to me? Send me the product manufacturer part number and your ask to <A
target=_blank>samudra.haque@gmail.com</A>. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Also, if I had
no FPGA board, is there a emulator environment that I can compile the code and
get a testbench / diagram of the signals? At least I could begin coding /
developing the framework right away.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">73 de Samudra
N3RDX<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<BR>Tacos
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