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    <font size="5" face="Comic Sans MS">You might be amused by the first
      drone I built around 2016.  I was running Ardupilot, it had a wood
      frame and 10 inch props.  I first called it "X2", but soon started
      calling it "Lumber Quad"  or sometimes the "Flying Hedge Trimmer".<br>
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      The radio was a Spektrum DX5E which is 2.4 GHz spread spectrum and
      I think I used a Spektrum receiver too.   I didn't have any
      telemetry, so I kept track of the time and used the feel of the
      machine for battery state.  X2 was heavy so I only got under 8
      minutes  flight time.<br>
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      As you can see from this video I could have benefited from PID
      tuning.<br>
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        href="https://youtu.be/sv29vXG1-Mg?si=STqCMkxRx3DyYlHm">https://youtu.be/sv29vXG1-Mg?si=STqCMkxRx3DyYlHm<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/13/2025 12:24 PM, Jacek
      Radzikowski wrote:<br>
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        <div>I used to fly fpv a lot, now on a hiatus. But I have to get
          back into flying. It's way too much fun.</div>
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        <div dir="auto">Jacek</div>
        <div dir="auto">Kw4ep</div>
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        <div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Given a choice between two
          theories, take the one which is funnier </div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 13, 2025, 09:48
          alex fraser via Tacos <<a href="mailto:tacos@amrad.org"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">tacos@amrad.org</a>>
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          <div> <font face="Comic Sans MS" size="4">I agree, he is
              good, I've used his site a lot.  Are you building or
              flying UAV?</font><br>
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            <div>On 10/12/2025 10:09 PM, Jacek Radzikowski wrote:<br>
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                  style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">if you're
                  interested in building drones, this is a great channel
                  for learning: <a
                    href="https://www.youtube.com/@JoshuaBardwell"
                    target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.youtube.com/@JoshuaBardwell</a></div>
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                  style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Jacek</div>
                <div class="gmail_default"
                  style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">kw4ep</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 at
                  15:17, Alex Fraser via Tacos <<a
                    href="mailto:tacos@amrad.org" target="_blank"
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                  wrote:<br>
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                      face="Comic Sans MS">PIDtoolbo,x has a YouTube
                      site,  I am viewing a video on that site which is
                      at <a
href="https://youtu.be/ehvQm8Rqrzk?si=XKyL3DGHzVwaT8hT" target="_blank"
                        rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://youtu.be/ehvQm8Rqrzk?si=XKyL3DGHzVwaT8hT</a><br>
                      There is a good bit to learn and lots of
                      settings.  There is a script you can load on the
                      controller to put the drone in "wiggle mode" 
                      which is fun to watch.  You get the drone to hover
                      and flick a switch and it sure does wiggle.  You
                      land and then examine the graphs and adjust the
                      parameters to smooth things out.  Sounds easy,
                      well for some I guess, me I'll be slipping all
                      over the learning curve...<br>
                      <br>
                      I think the PIDtoolbox is now part of the
                      Betaflight configurator.  BTW it does not have any
                      flux capacitors in it.<br>
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                    <div>On 10/10/2025 9:14 PM, Alex Fraser via Tacos
                      wrote:<br>
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                        face="Comic Sans MS">Starting to get ready for
                        Flight controller configuration.  I kept seeing
                        "PID".  Well PID is </font><font
                        face="Comic Sans MS" size="5">"Proportional–Integral–Derivative
                        controller" and I'm so glad they have software
                        that can do this for you.<br>
                        Interesting Wikipedia article <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional%E2%80%93integral%E2%80%93derivative_controller"
                          target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
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