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use and suddenly an air horn sound will be most confusing.=20
Have someone up the food chain (who is respected and part of the repeater l=
eadership) explain what was heard and what it means.
 
Always leave an out for the target.=20
People who are cornered can do irrational and dangerous things.
 
{SOB has two meanings, the other can be Swell Old Boy, don=92t pass up a ch=
ance for that.}
 
Have the respected voice talk this up.=20
If the problem goes away and never comes back, make it clear that the matte=
r will not go to the regulating agencies.=20
 
(IF it goes to the regulating agencies, good chance nothing will happen any=
way. They need to catch the subject in the act as well. Yet it's a good thr=
eat and the feds have a start point.)
 
Offer not to say a name on the air unless the problems start up again.=20
Black Mail is the only tool we have; don=92t be shy about using it.
 
Might want to make a point of playing "News Line" once a week on the repeat=
er.=20
Part of that report is about idiots who get gigged and fined for rules=
 violations.=20
Don't be dramatic about it, just present it as news.
 
Subtle and a flying mallet.=20
 
The 'command team' will have to judge the ratio.=20
Of =91be nice=92 vs. =91get stuffed=92.
 
Now you know that I=92m a sneaky bastard.
 
Just one tough question for ya.
 
What if your jammer won't leave you alone after being outed? {There is that=
 Tiger again}
My psycho in New York didn=92t simply stop after being 'caught'.
{The 25% idiot} 
 
At that point you may have to make friends with LE and have him dragged fro=
m the car.=20
See if they can find something useful like drugs or a gun.  An arrest =
is a good way to get someone=92s attention. As a minimum have the PD check =
for police frequencies in the radio gear. Most states are not fond of that.
 
It=92s been my experience that most jammers have not one bad habit but thre=
e.
 
{Investigated a bunch of disgruntled hams back in New York.=20
 
They took over a 220 simplex channel and bad mouthed the rest of us.=20
Seems there was a connection, when they went quiet, crap broke out on vario=
us repeaters, and when the crap stopped, and they were back on their channe=
l acting like nothing happened. Imagine if you could a jamming schedule.
 
If they were not busing our chops, annoying the Coast Guard was popular or =
causing havoc on some business band channel. Or trashing CB radio operators.
 
These guys also had other bad habits.
 
Five of them shared a pirate radio frequency on the FM band.=20
So on some night=92s one guy would transmit for a few hours, then the next,=
 and so on.=20
 
Some of them were illegal drug users and talked about that.=20
 
One of them {A part time dispatcher for an FD} was truly anal about time.=
=20
His stuff would start and stop on exact 5 minute intervals.=20
You can set your watch by this joker.=20
The key factor here was when his FD had a call, we had peace. }
 
We should hook up and talk some time.
 
Hope this helps.
Keep it safe
Mike

"You are, what you do, when it counts"=20
The Masso

"Gravity, the quickest way down"=20
Mayor John Almafi

"You ever drop an egg, and on the floor you see it break?=20

You go and get a mop so you can clean up your mistake.=20

But did you ever stop to ponder why we know it's true?=20

If you drop a broken egg you will not get an egg that's new?&qu=
ot;=20

MC Hawking=

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"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I don=92t have a huge amount of spare time today=
 to put a shine on what is a number of e mail exchanges. </FONT></P>
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<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>This morning June 10th on the 146.79 we were tal=
king about RDF and some issues related to it. This is a follow up I agreed =
to after that chat. This data might be useful for others who want to learn =
what I call 'the black art'.</FONT></P>
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<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Might go into detail on the Tech Net tonight 53.=
61 and 442.100 at 20:00.</FONT></P>
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<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>It=92s no secret that I=92m indirectly involved =
with <DEFANGED_SPAN>RDF</DEFANGED_SPAN> efforts in the area. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>As a community, we seem to have collected some n=
ew and exciting idiots.</FONT></P>
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ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Repeater jammers come in several flavors. </FONT=
></P>
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ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I caught a fair number of stuck transmitters and=
 four jammers. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Three behaved after getting my notice, number fo=
ur was a psycho.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Some are simply accidental. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>These are guys who for some combination of techn=
ical reasons end up hanging a carrier on a frequency, and not noticing the =
fact. They can be found, talked politely to and in almost all cases shut of=
f the transmitter and apologize for being a nuisance. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Finding signals like that is about as difficult =
as locating a cue ball on a pool table. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>It just takes work.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><A href=3D"ht=
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604647425365/?addedcomment=3D1#comment72157605534941126</FONT></A></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
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<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The next class is also fairly straight forward t=
o find. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>It=92s been my experience what causes repeater j=
amming is weak willed individuals with a grudge. As techie types, we tend t=
o forget that everybody else has a =91human side=92. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>We live with our likes and dislikes. Praises and=
 slights. If your lucky they can be intimidated into behaving.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The bigger argument is =91what is normal=92? </F=
ONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>There is no one size fits all answer for that qu=
estion. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Yet it=92s clear that some people can be driven =
off the fine edge of control if they are not happy and entertained.</FONT><=
/P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>With radio it=92s easy to =91ruin=92 someone=92s=
 day. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Just push a button. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>From my perspective, this is a failure of moral =
character.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>So the larger part of direction finding is figur=
ing out who is unhappy with whom. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>That cuts down the field of suspects by about 99=
%. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>When it comes to efforts like this, some informa=
tion can be =91public=92 and a good chunk has to be =91back channel=92. </F=
ONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>We live in a socicity where if people feel =91wr=
onged=92 for any reason, lawyers get involved. And the price goes up from t=
here.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Accusations are bad, making a wrong accusation o=
r not having enough evidence is a huge error we can=92t recover from.</FONT=
></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Ive done DF work in <?xml:namespace prefix =3D s=
t1 ns =3D "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><DEFANGED_st1:Stat=
e w:st=3D"on"><DEFANGED_st1:place w:st=3D"on">New York</DEFANGED_st1:place>=
</DEFANGED_st1:State>, and had to hold back on opinions until the facts wer=
e in. This restraint has done me well. Make sure, make real sure. Never tru=
st a random sample of =91one=92 on any RDF mission. Get someone else to see=
 and hear the same thing.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Found my share of stuck transmitters, real repea=
ter jammers, and some strange interference.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The last and hardest to figure out class of repe=
ater jammer is the Psycho. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I=92ve met a few. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>These are people who don=92t care about the rest=
 of us, they are going to have their fun, or make life difficult for the re=
st of us. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Fortunately these guys are fairly rare, but they=
 do not respond to anything but enforcement. Even that=92s hit or miss.</FO=
NT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Give this a thought for a moment.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Let=92s say as individuals we build equipment an=
d learn how to use it. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Using all this stuff you actually find someone d=
oing illegal things on club repeaters. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Just what are you going to do about it? </FONT><=
/P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>In case you hadn=92t noticed, I don=92t carry a =
badge, never took an oath. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I=92m just another citizen with a pile of weird =
gear in their vehicle. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I don=92t have any magic enforcement powers. </F=
ONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I have no method of forcing compliance.</FONT></=
P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Ham radio is in many ways an anonymous hobby. </=
FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>We live our lives behind keys and microphones. <=
/FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Only venture out and socialize on rare occasion.=
 </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Ours is not a spectator sport. It=92s a private =
activity. When the spot light is shined during our operation we tend to bli=
nk and stall out a bit.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>RDF is that spotlight. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>When I find jammers I play some nasty head games=
, let them know in a fail proof way that they have been found, that I know =
who they are, and if they want to stay in the larger social group, sin no m=
ore, or be black balled. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Coming from an Old Line Italian family, we call =
it Black Mail. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>It=92s the only lever I have when jokers are fou=
nd, so I pull it.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>In DF you need to think three or more steps ahea=
d in the process. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>In the end you know your going to find someone. =
</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The critical thing is to have a plan on what to =
do after they have been caught in the act. Humans don=92t like to be forced=
 to deal with their unpleasant behavior. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Remember its one thing to catch a tiger; the tri=
ck is to have a plan for what comes next.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3D=
3><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">RDF is a black art. <DEFANGED_SPAN style=
=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</DEFANGED_SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>It=92s not going to make you popular. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>In fact the rest of the community looks at guys =
like me with a skewed sense of dread. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Who has never made an error, who has never had a=
 spike of anger? </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3D=
3><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">With guys like me around, nobody is comple=
tely comfortable. <DEFANGED_SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</DEFANG=
ED_SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>As in whom am I going to catch next?</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Similar to finding out that your nice quiet neig=
hbor was also the state executioner. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>How do you make small talk with someone like tha=
t?</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Anyhow...</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>What are below are some snips and adjustments of=
 e mails back and forth with various people involved in the RDF effort in t=
he <DEFANGED_st1:place w:st=3D"on">Northern Virginia</DEFANGED_st1:place> a=
rea. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Read the notes, click the links. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Names and styles have been altered.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I=92m going to inject some comments and further =
insights.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Build some gear, practice with it. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>You too can get funny looks from concerned citiz=
ens.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Keep it warm</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Mike aka KA2ZEV</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=
..</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Kids,</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Control Op X and I had a chat.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>You got some weird people on channel.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I see two things happening here.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>One is a public threat that most of these idiots=
 don't respond well to, </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>and the other is a private back channel that wil=
l work if careful attention to OPSEC (Operational Security) is maintained.<=
/FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>{Guess I need to =91break this out a bit.</FONT>=
</P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Public Threat. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Is the kind of chatter along the lines of =93Hop=
e like heck I don=92t find you first, blah, blah, blah=94. Such trash talk =
did not work in grade school, now that we are older and more experienced wh=
y do we think it=92s going to work now? Come on, get real.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Catching repeater jammers means we must stay on =
the moral high ground, no matter how ugly the jammer gets. We must do every=
thing right, no matter the provocation.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Most repeater jammers are cheap bullies, they kn=
ow what talk is and they know what=92s real. Talk is a goad; it makes them =
do their thing more. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Sometimes this is handy to have a =91goad=92 out=
 there keeping the bozo on the air. For the most part it=92s just annoying =
that I have to hear the bozo and the goad =91go at it=92.}</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>You know your audience, and I don't. I'm willing=
 to watch and learn.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>{This is my acknowledgment that in this case the=
 repeater trustees know who their target is and that I don=92t. In this sit=
uation my roll is simply back seat driving. I=92m watching this play out fr=
om a distance and not taking part.}</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>If you want to play a head game...</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>{Some of the most effective =91anti jam=92 we ha=
ve is PSYWAR or psylogical warfare. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Back in <DEFANGED_st1:State w:st=3D"on"><DEFANGE=
D_st1:place w:st=3D"on">New York</DEFANGED_st1:place></DEFANGED_st1:State> =
I got to be a known player. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>If I showed up on a channel where there was a pr=
oblem, that problem got worse. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Because my location was known. People were afrai=
d of me and what I do.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3D=
3><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Did some follow up head games with dual ba=
nd radios to make it sound like I was home while I was someplace else. <DEF=
ANGED_SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</DEFANGED_SPAN></FONT></FONT>=
</P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I used to go DF hunting in awful weather. Once i=
n a hail storm. Got real close that night.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>It=92s fun to mess with peoples heads. </FONT></=
P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Conflict with other humans is not about =91playi=
ng fair=92 it=92s about winning, because winning is the only thing that mat=
ters. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>In anti jammer efforts, there is no joy in secon=
d place.}</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Tactics.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Shoot me a (text) message on the phone to 'disap=
pear' (text) and mention on the repeater that I'm out and about. See what h=
appens.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>(Used to do this back in <DEFANGED_st1:place w:s=
t=3D"on"><DEFANGED_st1:State w:st=3D"on">New York</DEFANGED_st1:State></DEF=
ANGED_st1:place>, guess what, my reputation was such that people didn=92t f=
ool with the club assets if my location was not known.)</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>That's why I suggested to Control Op X to look u=
p a PsiWar expert for ideas.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>We can play the head game back.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I also think making people=92s phone ring at the=
 wrong time can have an effect.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>{This is one of the better ways of catching some=
one. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Open microphones catch a great deal of useful da=
ta. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Phones, other radios, environmental noise, each =
one of us has a unique background to our transmissions. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>A useful tip to hearing all that is to loose the=
 factory speaker in your hand held or mobile. Between the mechanics of the =
speaker and the resonances of the housing, factory speakers are good enough=
 for voice.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Put a good =91hi fi=92 speaker on your radio. </=
FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>FM is a high fidelity medium; you will be astoni=
shed to hear all kinds of new things. Those =91things=92 can be telling.}<B=
R DEFANGED_style=3D"mso-special-character: line-break"><BR DEFANGED_style=
=3D"mso-special-character: line-break"></FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>RDF Stuff</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>{There are guys who have beams, maps and all tha=
t wonderful stuff, it works, but the problem is it=92s slow. It=92s nearly =
useless for nailing down =91fast kerchunkers=92 and other types of quick si=
gnals. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The weapon of choice for my style of RDF is a Do=
ppler Direction finder. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Not much beats it, and in this forum I ain=92t g=
oing to say how to do so.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><DEFANGED_SPA=
N style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp=
;</FONT></DEFANGED_SPAN></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Give you a hint, I used to practice on packet st=
ations, and that was plenty of time to get a reading.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The down side of Doppler gear is poor range and =
a high noise floor; I need a good steer into a general area, after that I c=
an engage. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>So a good hunt is a group effort. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The beam people tell me the general area, and I =
get to find the source.}</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The problem is, factory built RDF is expensive.<=
/FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>These guys don't publish a price list.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><A href=3D"ht=
tp://www.dopsys.com/index.htm" target=3D_blank><FONT face=3D"Times New Roma=
n" size=3D3>http://www.dopsys.com/index.htm</FONT></A></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Some "Marine"&nbsp;RDF is adaptable but the ante=
nnas tend to be huge. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I will check out some of it and report back to y=
ou. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>{I failed to find any new Marine RDF units at a =
rational price. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>At one time Apelco=92s and Regency=92s were comm=
on and worked just fine. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>None seem to be listed on web sites or stores. <=
/FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Got to wonder about this. Will keep looking}</FO=
NT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Rule of thumb, if it picks up EPIRBS (121.5MHz )=
 then it will work on 2m.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>At our level most RDF&nbsp;tends to be kit made =
and this requires a lot of thinking. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Then learning to use it takes even more time and=
 money. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Most everything you learn about real world RDF i=
s the opposite of what common sense tells us.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>With that said, here are some links.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><A DEFANGED_h=
ref=3D"http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=3Dactio=
n&amp;key=3DDDF1" target=3D"_blank"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3=
>http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=3Daction&amp;=
key=3DDDF1</FONT></A></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><A href=3D"ht=
tp://www.byonics.com/dsp-rdf/" target=3D_blank><FONT face=3D"Times New Roma=
n" size=3D3>http://www.byonics.com/dsp-rdf/</FONT></A></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Give this one a read in detail, buy the book</FO=
NT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><A href=3D"ht=
tp://www.homingin.com/" target=3D_blank><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=
=3D3>http://www.homingin.com/</FONT></A></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>{This book is amazing. Lots of good and useful d=
ata in it.}</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>This is the unit I have with some highly non sta=
ndard mods to it. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Stuff never thought about in the book.</FONT><A =
href=3D"http://www.homingin.com/DSEfix.html" target=3D_blank><FONT face=3D"=
Times New Roman" color=3D#800080 size=3D3>http://www.homingin.com/DSEfix.ht=
ml</FONT></A></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Anyhow.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I'm fixing up the 'sense head' for my Doppler un=
it.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Next week when that's finished I need to look at=
 the analyzer&nbsp;unit, get a fresh battery and see about punching some ho=
les in the&nbsp;roof of the truck. I can afford to operate that, </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><A href=3D"ht=
tp://www.flickr.com/photos/90108848@N00/sets/72157604097911658/" target=3D_=
blank><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D#800080 size=3D3>http://www.fl=
ickr.com/photos/90108848 at N00/sets/72157604097911658/</FONT></A></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I can't afford too many more RDF trips in the po=
lice pack!</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><A href=3D"ht=
tp://www.flickr.com/photos/90108848@N00/2485253310/in/set-72157605006909722=
/" target=3D_blank><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D#800080 size=3D3>=
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90108848@N00/2485253310/in/set-721576050069097=
22/</FONT></A></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>{Skool Daze. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>There are no training classes for this stuff. </=
FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Ever heard of a university class that teaches pe=
ople how to make ham repeaters?</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><DEFANGED_SPA=
N style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp=
;</FONT></DEFANGED_SPAN></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Same for RDF. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Most of it is self taught and the lessons are al=
l expensive. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>What I can do is have a sit down with people int=
erested in the issue, show and demo some goods and explain how some of this=
 stuff came to be. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>There is no reason to be stingy with the data. <=
/FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>If I can flatten out someone else=92s learning c=
urve, why not. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>What I won=92t do is converse about the subject =
with a suspect. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>When you learn the technology, you also learn it=
s weakness and how to defeat some of them. Life is tough; it=92s harder whe=
n you hand your play book to the enemy. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I ain=92t doing that.}</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>We should hang out and chat about this issue som=
e time.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Bring a note book; the data dump will&nbsp;be ex=
treme.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>When I teach people how to do DF I also teach pe=
ople how to beat DF, I don't want give up hard learned knowledge to the wro=
ng types. So when you pick the attendance, get trusted people to come along=
.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>RDF ain't for everybody. It requires money and e=
ffort to make it work properly.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I'm going to try and save you a lot of pain and =
treasure by side steeping the RDF learning curve.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>M</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=
=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>This next note is a highly edited back and forth=
 with a genuinely annoyed control Op.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=
=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Mike, </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Since my last email, we've had some updates.</FO=
NT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>(Before you accuse, make real sure. I have a nas=
ty trick that works nearly every time.)</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>(Pays to make sure. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>One bad accusation and we all look like ninnies.=
)</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I'll record the machine 24/7 if I have to as wel=
l.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>(Recordings are at best 'hear say' and not too u=
seful.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The FCC had an enforcement action in NYC some ye=
ars ago. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Someone was giving bad ATC (Air Traffic Control)=
 signals on an approach to JFK airport.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>(Consider this, when a pilot of a 747 get=92s to=
ld to change runways at the last moment and he can see another plane alread=
y there. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>That=92s what this clown was doing, issuing bad =
instructions to flyers that could result in horrendous loss of life.) </FON=
T></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The FCC and the federal Marshals had to kick dow=
n the door of an apartment, and visually see the bozo pressing the PTT swit=
ch, they did it but it was not easy.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Think about rules of evidence.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The better the evidence the less explaining you =
have to do later. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Some arguments you can't win without sticking th=
e facts up people=92s noses.)</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>{It=92s human nature that people believe what th=
e want to believe and the facts are irrelevant. We have this huge ability t=
o lie to our selves and to others. Keep in mind, no matter how fancy the te=
chnology, this all comes down to humans behaving badly, and nobody likes to=
 be caught.}</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>(That's a good plan. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>At the 'kill' we can do a few things to&nbsp;cut=
 down the chance of error.)</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>=85confront him face to face if need be.&nbsp; <=
/FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>(There is a better way.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>When I 'nail' a suspect they are usually making =
noise, or have a live microphone open in their area.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I get a power air horn, like the kinds that mari=
ne stores sell. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Self contained gas unit, and a&nbsp;loud trumpet=
. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Think of the kind you hear at a hockey game.</FO=
NT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>When my bozo is transmitting, I let fly with the=
 horn. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The sound is across the yard and through the rad=
io before our idiot can un key. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>We usually have a game of "peek a boo" through t=
he blinds, I flip the bird and drive off.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>This way the subject knows they have been had, a=
nd by who.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>In my experience 75% of the time, the problem st=
ops.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>So if your target is doing this in a vehicle ...=
 just add a step or two.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Dose he know what you look like? </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>If so, then someone he has never met should be t=
he one to spring the trap.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Can you sneak up on the vehicle as a pedestrian,=
 perhaps with the rx audio from a hand held fed to a pair of IPod style ear=
 plugs? Hide the radio; it's just there to tell you when the transmitter is=
 'on'.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Get next to the car, and when a rude transmissio=
n happens, blat with the horn.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Just be sure to turn down the radio first. That =
horn is going to be loud!</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Make eye contact, flip the bird and leave.</FONT=
></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Say or do nothing else provocative.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Side effects.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Most people would be too stunned after getting c=
aught red handed.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Think of the most embarrassing thing you ever go=
t caught doing. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I have a list I ain't proud of. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Don=92t ask me about it.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Some people recover faster than others. You have=
 to be ready for that.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>{Remember what I said about catching the tiger, =
what happens next is critical}</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Might want to have a 'get away car' handy so you=
 can get in and have someone else drive you off and out of the way. </FONT>=
</P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>If you get chased, run to the back of a Police s=
tation.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Try not to bring weapons with you, that just loo=
ks bad in the after action report.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The Air Horn is nasty enough. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>As fun as it might be to set it off right in an =
ear, 12 to 15 feet is close enough.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>At a distance it=92s a nasty scare, too close it=
's an assault, and your moral high ground is eroded.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>When you act, say and do nothing on the radio ab=
out it.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Might want to keep a recorder going at home so y=
ou can 'document your kill'.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>{I used to use a 6 hour VHS recorder, and a vide=
o camera at home.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The camera watched a radio scanner and a fancy 2=
4 hour clock. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The audio part of the scanner was fed into the V=
HS recorder. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>So when I made my =91kill=92 the tape logged the=
 sound of my air horn going through someone=92s radio at a very specific ti=
me and frequency. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>A poor mans data logger.}</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>You=92re going to be upset, angry and at such ti=
mes people tend to say things that they would never say when calm.</FONT></=
P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>I the gun community we have an expression 'shoot=
, shovel and shut up'.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Give your self some down time after the 'kill'. =
</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>You=92re going to be upset and angry that you ha=
d to spend a chunk of your life teaching someone who should know better not=
 to be an idiot. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Face it none of us like to =91correct=92 the bad=
 behavior in others. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Conversely none of us want or need bad behavior =
inflicted upon the collective group.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Before the =91kill=92 one might want to tip off =
a few others privately, via phone either before or after the event. Remembe=
r OPSEC.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>From the outsiders {the rank and file repeater u=
sers} one moment hearing abuse and suddenly an air horn sound will be most =
confusing. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Have someone up the food chain (who is respected=
 and part of the repeater leadership) explain what was heard and what it me=
ans.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Always leave an out for the target. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>People who are cornered can do irrational and da=
ngerous things.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>{SOB has two meanings, the other can be Swell Ol=
d Boy, don=92t pass up a chance for that.}</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Have the respected voice talk this up. </FONT></=
P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>If the problem goes away and never comes back, m=
ake it clear that the matter will not go to the regulating agencies. </FONT=
></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>(IF it goes to the regulating agencies, good cha=
nce nothing will happen anyway. They need to catch the subject in the act a=
s well. Yet it's a good threat and the feds have a start point.)</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><DEFANGED_SPA=
N style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp=
;</FONT></DEFANGED_SPAN></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Offer not to say a name on the air unless the pr=
oblems start up again. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Black Mail is the only tool we have; don=92t be =
shy about using it.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Might want to make a point of playing "News Line=
" once a week on the repeater. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Part of that report is about&nbsp;idiots who get=
 gigged and fined for rules violations. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Don't be dramatic about it, just present it as n=
ews.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Subtle and a flying mallet. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The 'command team' will have to judge the ratio.=
 </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Of =91be nice=92 vs. =91get stuffed=92.</FONT></=
P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Now you know that I=92m a&nbsp;sneaky bastard.</=
FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Just one tough question for ya.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>What if your jammer won't leave you alone after =
being outed? {There is that Tiger again}</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>My psycho in <DEFANGED_st1:State w:st=3D"on"><DE=
FANGED_st1:place w:st=3D"on">New York</DEFANGED_st1:place></DEFANGED_st1:St=
ate> didn=92t simply stop after being 'caught'.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>{The 25% idiot}&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>At that point you may have to make friends with =
LE and have him dragged from the car. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>See if they can find something useful like drugs=
 or a gun. <DEFANGED_SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</DEFANGED_SPAN=
>An arrest is a good way to get someone=92s attention. As a minimum have th=
e PD check for police frequencies in the radio gear. Most states are not fo=
nd of that.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>It=92s been my experience that most jammers have=
 not one bad habit but three.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>{Investigated a bunch of disgruntled hams back i=
n <DEFANGED_st1:State w:st=3D"on"><DEFANGED_st1:place w:st=3D"on">New York<=
/DEFANGED_st1:place></DEFANGED_st1:State>. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>They took over a 220 simplex channel and bad mou=
thed the rest of us. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Seems there was a connection, when they went qui=
et, crap broke out on various repeaters, and when the crap stopped, and the=
y were back on their channel acting like nothing happened. Imagine if you c=
ould a jamming schedule.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>If they were not busing our chops, annoying the =
Coast Guard was popular or causing havoc on some business band channel. Or =
trashing CB radio operators.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>These guys also had other bad habits.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Five of them shared a pirate radio frequency on =
the FM band. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>So on some night=92s one guy would transmit for =
a few hours, then the next, and so on. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Some of them were illegal drug users and talked =
about that. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>One of them {A part time dispatcher for an FD} w=
as truly anal about time. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>His stuff would start and stop on exact 5 minute=
 intervals. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>You can set your watch by this joker. </FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The key factor here was when his FD had a call, =
we had peace. }</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>We should hook up and talk some time.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT fa=
ce=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Hope this helps.</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Keep it safe</FONT></P>
<P class=3D"MsoNormal" DEFANGED_style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D=
"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Mike</FONT></P><BR><BR>&amp;quot;You are, what y=
ou do, when it counts&amp;quot; <BR>The Masso<BR><BR>&amp;quot;Gravity, the=
 quickest way down&amp;quot; <BR>Mayor John Almafi<BR><BR>&amp;quot;You eve=
r drop an egg, and on the floor you see it break? <BR><BR>You go and get a =
mop so you can clean up your mistake. <BR><BR>But did you ever stop to pond=
er why we know it&amp;#39;s true? <BR><BR>If you drop a broken egg you will=
 not get an egg that&amp;#39;s new?&amp;quot; <BR><BR>MC Hawking</td></tr><=
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