Would the ban apply to ham-radio equipment too ?

[Joseph Bento]

Presidents and politicians have been chipping away at the Constitution long before Obama was ever elected.  Don't make it sound as though the eroding of our Constitution is all Obama's doing.  I seem to recall a prior president that also wished to keep America safe, taking away rights in the process, so the eroding of our rights and liberties is certainly not tied to any one political party.

Joe, N6DGY



On Dec 16, 2011, at 10:28 PM, kevin wrote:

> Is it any wonder why Congress has a 9% approval rating.  :-) 
> That's okay though, I won't have to worry about any of this radio stuff since I'll be in Gitmo after Obama signs the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act which allows the military to arrest, detain indefinitely, without lawyer or charges , American citizens on American soil (yep, you heard me right, this passed congress and is waiting, as we speak, for Obama to sign it).  Since Occupy was said to be a terrorist group for peacefully protesting in London, I don't imagine the U.S. is far behind (you know, considering all the tear gassing and breaking up of peaceful protesters "petitioning their government of grievances" -- people questioning the gov't... we can't have that).  So I expect that in the future I will be arrested by the Gestapo, I mean SS, I mean soldiers for carrying a sign at my high school promoting Occupy.
> 
> So as much as I share your folks frustration in this attack on our 'rights to radio,' please realize this is only a symptom.  Please know and help spread the word that there is a bill on Obama's desk that throws out the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.  It will be the final straw that ends any portion of our system that may have still had a democratic process in it.  This is the Enabling Act of 1933 now covered in the flag and holding a bible in 2011.  Hell, even Fox thinks this is a bad idea.  By the way, don't forget about SOPA, which will allow the U.S. to develop the firewall of China (censoring of the internet)... again, covered in the flag and holding the bible.  All this drafted in secret and proposed in a matter of less than a month.  My, how quickly the mighty can fall.
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> http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-set-to-become-law-the-terror-is-nearer-than-ever-2011-12
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> Please write the White House and demand a veto to the NDAA...
> 
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments
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> 
> Solidarity!
> Kevin Osborn
> KD0ABR
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> 
> Phil wrote:
>> When we passed a law in Britain making use of a mobile phone illegal by the driver of a vehicle in transit, mobile amateur radio users secured an exemption solely on the grounds that there has never, ever been a vehicle accident in the UK attributed to the use of mobile amateur radio. However, lives have been saved by the prompt action of radio operators.
>> 
>> Nowadays, we have frequent motorway accidents caused by long-distance lorry drivers holding conversations by text messaging.
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>> Phil M1GWZ
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>> On 16 Dec 2011, at 04:12, Frank Gentges wrote:
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>>> The Virginia legislature had a draft bill that would have prohibited hams from using their radios as part of the cell phone bill.  The radio amateurs got to the people writing the bill and got some changes made based on Rhode Island's bill.
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>>> Hopefully, the hams will similarly protect against an overarching bill like the NTSB would suggest the states all pass.  Better yet the NTSB wording should identify hams as an exception to their recommendation. We shall see.
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>>> Frank K0BRA
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