BBC News: Molten metal batteries for the grid
Frank Gentges
metavox at earthlink.net
Mon Sep 22 14:27:09 CDT 2014
I was unaware of this system in Bath county right here in Virginia.
There is a nice video at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk2YL46ewo0
I was impressed by the transport of the part along the mountain roads
all the way to York, PA for refurbishment. That is quite a trailer.
I also wonder what the liquid metal battery would look like that could
replace this setup. All that hot metal could be a problem.
Frank K0BRA
On 9/22/2014 8:51 AM, Rob Seastrom wrote:
>
> There's also an enormous (as in might still be the largest) one right
> here in Virginia.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_County_Pumped_Storage_Station
>
> -r
>
> "fgentges at mindspring.com" <fgentges at mindspring.com> writes:
>
>> There is another water based system in Missouri. It is the Taum Sauk
>> Hydroelectric power station. It was built in 1963 by Union Electric
>> in St Louis. It suffered a major failure from a hurricane. More
>> information on this is at:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taum_Sauk_Hydroelectric_Power_Station
>>
>> Another project by Union Electric is Bagnell dam which was built in
>> 1929-1931 prior to the TVA project. It created Lake of the Ozarks, a
>> favorite recreational area.
>>
>> Both were done on private money by Union Electric.
>>
>> Frank K0BRA
>>
>>
>> On 9/21/2014 9:16 PM, Ed Dunlop wrote:
>>> Oops! Right name but wrong location. It's actually located in PA but near the Susquehanna River north of Conowingo Dam.
>>>
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>>> (c) © Ed Dunlop. Todos los derechos reservados. 1265 Estate Dr ..W Chester PA 193 80 USA m-67
>>>
>>>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Ed Dunlop <ed at computer.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A good example of an already running water based system is PECO Energy's "Muddy Run Pumped Storage" facility north of Philadelphia near the Delaware River.
>>>>
>>>> Ed N3DJH
>>>> --
>>>> (c) © Ed Dunlop. Todos los derechos reservados. 1265 Estate Dr ..W Chester PA 193 80 USA m-67
>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:35 PM, kf4hcw <kf4hcw at lifeatwarp9.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2014-09-21 15:26, William Danielson wrote:
>>>>>> I have heard from some folks who worked where they had a forward and
>>>>>> reverse hydroelectric setup...off peak they would pump water up above
>>>>>> a dam, on peak they would release it to power alternators.
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw this a year ago (maybe more).
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder which loses less energy -- pumping water upstream, or keeping
>>>>> molten metal batteries hot (plus inversion losses).
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, you don't have the opportunity to do the water trick
>>>>> everywhere... so there's that.
>>>>>
>>>>> _M
>>>>>
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>>>>> kf4hcw
>>>>> Pete McNeil
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