windoze 10

Mon Dec 28 11:32:25 CST 2015

D’OH - Her sony is a 17” !!!


> On Dec 28, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Michael O'Dell <mo at ccr.org> wrote:
> 
> Judy just upgraded her ginormous Sony 10” lap crusher to Win10.
> 
> Since she managed to complete the installation (Sony’s recovery disk writer
> was a bloody nightmare), she says it’s been pretty trouble-free. 
> The big surprise I just got is that she said “Edge just crashes when I try to launch it.” 
> She uses Mozilla as her primary browser and Mozy is finally fully 64-bit under Win10, 
> so she’s not upset that Edge/Internet-Explorer is hosed.
> 
> At the other extreme, the IT folks at the day job are extremely wary of Win10.
> A bunch of the enterprise stuff we use heavily has not been thoroughly checked-out
> yet and I’ve already spent too much of my life debugging other people’s products
> to volunteer. Their problem is much bigger, though. Lots of servers in multiple
> locations, all the laptops, file and Outlook sync and interoperability, VPN network
> stuff, endpoint encryption that has to start before the system can boot, etc, etc.
> They are *very* careful about changing things because it’s so easy to break
> something unknowingly that is only discovered by a General Partner on the 
> far side of the world who can get very grumpy very fast.
> 
> Note tha MS is making a *huge* push into “The Internet of Things” (IoT).
> There is a list of like 6 different SKUs for the Win10-IoT releases.
> Ya know that thing that Gates swore was impossible during the anti-trust
> trial? A modularized version of Windoze? Well, Windows Embedded shipped
> not long after the trial ended (!!) and it has been a major effort every since.
> One of the IoT SKUs is specifically targeted at getting XP off ATM machines!
> 
> To give credit where it’s due, Windows with window system and related
> crap stripped out leaves a pretty small OS capable of “soft" real-time stuff,
> the NT filesystem, and the network stack. IE, it’s VMS86-x64 with a Posix
> subsystem if you want. and the HyperV-izer if you want. Basically
> a pretty solid OS that has a vastly smaller and more robust attack surface than 
> full Windoze. It only took them 3 decades to catch-up, but who’s counting?
> 
> 	-mo
> 
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> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Terry N4TLF <n4tlf at wb4jfi.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The only problem that I've had with actually running Win10 is the unexpected rebooting after it installs updates.  I think there is an option to disable that, which I will look for when I'm not so busy - or lazy.  The info below is to let you know how many Win10 boxes that I have that are working FINE.
>> 
>> I haven't had a blue screen, or any program crashes on any Win10 box - yet. Even my "ham" computer with a lot of SDR programs has been reliable with Win10, which flaked out on occasion under Win7.  So far.....
>> 
>> I do have one computer (this i3 Gateway) that refuses to upgrade to Win10 from 7.  It tried again today to do it, so Microsoft is still pushing the upgrade.  This machine doesn't have enough space in the proper (system reserved) partition to do the upgrade, although the drive itself has plenty of room.  Alberto sent a pointer to fix that (Thanks Alberto!!), and I've started doing it a couple of times, but other things got in the way.
>> 
>> So, I have my main development computer (Dell Studio XPS), my Surface Pro 3, my Dell XPS420, my Shuttle, and my gigantic HP laptop, all on Windows 10 (and most dual-boot to Linux).  My Dell Studio XPS had a severe hard drive crash about two weeks after upgrading to Win10, but that was a separate hardware failure.  I had to put the drive into a fridge for 24 hours to get it to work again for a short period.  The USB drive backup fixed about 80% of that crash as it turned out.  A new Samsung 750GB SSD has taken its place.
>> 
>> I also just got a new Dell XPS8900 computer to replace the six-year-old XPS Studio.  The 8900 will eventually become my main machine, with the XPS Studio moving to the ham radio position, and the XPS420 moving to the workbench.  Since more and more test equipment is becoming computer-dependent, the old Dell XPS-400/XP machine by the bench needs to be retired - or at least given a simpler life.  There are also a sampling of (ugh) Gateway, (ugh) HP, Sony, Toshiba, and homebrew desktops and laptops spread around Foxlabs (lest you think I was exclusively Dell!).
>> 
>> I've also moved to a LOT of Solid-State Drives (SSDs).  Mostly Samsung, but with a few Crucial and Sandisk thrown in.  The hard drives NOW mostly act as a periodic backup, so when (not if) they crash, I lose the backup but not the main drive, from now on.  An old LG NAS 2TB also helps out.
>> 
>> Oh I forgot that my Acer Iconia W3 tablet also won't do Win10.  There aren't any Win10 video drivers for the display the last time I checked, so it's stuck on Win 8.2.
>> 
>> Do you like the latest Premiere?  I haven't used it in a few years, I should probably get the upgrade.  One machine here still has an old version of Premiere, Pinnacle something, and Avid Newscutter.  Trying to keep them all straight was a nightmare.  I have a keyboard with colored keys for Newscutter, but the rest don't match it!
>> 
>> Enjoy your editing!
>> 73, Terry, N4TLF
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Richard O'Neill
>> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 6:44 PM
>> To: tacos at amrad.org
>> Subject: Re: windoze 10
>> 
>> On 12/27/2015 6:07 PM, Joseph Bento wrote:
>>> Personally, this is turning out to be the very worst version release Microsoft has ever had.
>> 
>> And Lord only knows what other Nasty Big Brother intrusions may be
>> lurking within. So far the bulk of the reports I've read about Win 10
>> are mostly negative with a few neutral or no problems experienced - yet.
>> 
>> I've had Win 7 for a couple of years or more with no problems except
>> that pesky Win 10 update reminder that kept appearing on my screen every
>> few minutes, bugging me to download Win 10. To get rid of it I had to
>> switch to manual update checks and delete KB3035583 from my system.
>> 
>> Since doing that Microsoft hasn't offered me any other update except
>> the reminder notice and Win 10. I'm beginning to wonder if they've
>> discontinued Win 7 support for holdouts in an attempt to encourage an
>> upgrade? That will never happen with me as my mother cautioned me not to
>> accept candy from strangers or free software upgrades from Microsoft. ;-)
>> 
>> Still Skeptical
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