Interesting FPGA board

n4tlf n4tlf at wb4jfi.com
Tue Jan 11 16:10:12 EST 2022


The Pluto Plus looks interesting.  At least it covers 2 Meters and 220, 
an advantage over the Adalm-Pluto.  Has anyone seen the Pluto Plus, or 
any evaluation as to how good it is for SDR?

Terry



On 1/11/2022 1:02 AM, Martin wrote:
> I think it would be fun to turn a Pluto Plus 
> <https://github.com/plutoplus/plutoplus> into a POE data radio. It 
> would be great to use 1296 MHz or 10 GHz.  It seems doable and would 
> be fun to try.  It would need a RF
>
> The Red Pitaya uses a Zynq 7010 and can do this 
> <http://pavel-demin.github.io/red-pitaya-notes/>.  I think a 7010 
> would be up to the task.  The Lime SDRs would be great but who knows 
> when they are going to arrive.
>
> I will explore Reddit RPAN streams .
>
> --Martin
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 2:22 PM Samudra Haque 
> <samudra.haque at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     The zynq processor on the avnet is still supported freely in all
>     the current Vivado builds. This is based upon several cycles of
>     delete and installation on my poor laptop and also another Linux
>     computer. What I am annoyed is that the minized support ducks so I
>     wrote my own mini board definitions for a while  where i figured
>     put 7010s is great and I can write Vivado HDL/RTL directly to
>     connect directly.
>
>     But Terry what errors are you getting if you just install Vivado
>     directly and then start a project selecting just the basic part
>     number? It's listed as being free to license?
>
>     On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 17:11 n4tlf <n4tlf at wb4jfi.com> wrote:
>
>         I have several different FPGA boards and SDRs.  While I have
>         been partial to Xilinx (and Verilog) in the past, I have
>         started playing with Altera as well - thanks to some S100 FPGA
>         boards.
>
>         My biggest issue with Xilinx is their tools availability.  Can
>         one run Vivado as a hobbyest for not a lot of money?  That
>         stopped me a few years ago, I could run the older tools
>         associates with Spartan FPGAs, but newer FPGAs required
>         Vivado, which was either hobbled so much it couldn't do much,
>         or it was fairly costly.
>
>         The Avnet MiniZED came with a Vivado one-use limited license,
>         but it expired after one year, and won't help with a
>         re-installation on a new computer.
>
>         In addition to the old Spartan-series FPGAs, I have:
>         Avnet Spartan 6 LX9 FPGA board
>         Mimas V2 Spartan 6 FPGA board
>         two Red Pitaya boards with Zynq
>         Avnet MiniZed with Zynq
>         Digilent ZYBO development board with Zynq
>
>         I also have a Line SDR and Lime SDR Mini (uses Altera FPGAs)
>
>         I almost purchased the Analog Devices Adalm-Pluto a few times
>         (another Zynq device), but it's frequency coverage STARTS at
>         325MHz, a range that I'm less interested  in.
>
>         There is a nice book on the Zynq FPGAs, maybe available from
>         Xilinx, called "The ZYNQ Book" ISBN 978-0-9929787-0-9.
>         www.zynqbook.com <http://www.zynqbook.com>
>
>         So, is Vivado available to hobbyests like me?
>
>         Terry, N4TLF
>
>         On 1/10/2022 11:59 AM, Samudra Haque wrote:
>>         Thanks Martin, it would be nice to do that. I recently
>>         accidentally discovered and broadcast a Reddit r/shortcircuit
>>         video stream of the fpga testbed so, that system has great
>>         capability like live  comments and stuff. But it does take a
>>         monitor and a dedicated setup. Have you the time to explore
>>         Reddit RPAN streams ?
>>
>>         Michael Chisena and I have talked a lot of about streaming
>>         instructional electronics over thr new fangled systems... and
>>         I also want to ask of anyone else is interested? Then it
>>         could be a nice system to make if we used the OBS system ro
>>         switch video streams of the presenters from time to time into
>>         a zoom channel to support a group learning pathway .
>>
>>         Zoom also works and I have a few cameras that can be switched
>>         (selected) on demand.
>>
>>         But if group teaching is not required. I can and want to
>>         start collaboration in a technical education group towards
>>         homebrew digital and analog systems.
>>
>>         You may have noticed the booboo created at ORI, they just
>>         find out that their matlab code can't be ported to HDL
>>         without the extensive HDL converter license. Surprising they
>>         didn't know this earlier and stay away from that pathway.
>>         They just put out an email on this.
>>
>>         It is absolutely possible to write communication modulation
>>         and demodulation code as RTL and C/C++ (however ineffcient)
>>         without matlab! Even BASIC could be used to do a BPSK chain
>>         but of course the issues are with the matlab handy filters...
>>         I think.
>>
>>         So should we not  try to learn about this stuff all together?
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Sun, Jan 9, 2022, 00:42 Martin <dcmk1mr2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>             Hi All & Happy New Year!
>>
>>             Have you considered the ADALM-PLUTO?  $229 from Digikey,
>>             7010  (vs 7007), ships today, has more interesting stuff
>>             and can be reloaded with original software if SDR is
>>             needed.  I know it's not a dev board but people do tack
>>             leads to spare GPIO pins.
>>
>>             @Samudra, would you like to teach a little about FPGAs? 
>>             There is interest with the 50 MHz and Up club in
>>             Sunnyvale.  I'm too rusty to lead and it's not a
>>             bad commute over Zoom.
>>
>>             73 Martin W6MRR
>>
>>             On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 9:10 PM Samudra Haque
>>             <samudra.haque at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>                 So it may be possible to post this project to Avnet
>>                 Minized which is also zynq 7010s  based
>>
>>                 On Sun, Jan 9, 2022, 00:04 Terry Fox
>>                 <tfox at knology.net> wrote:
>>
>>                     Regarding today's discussion on tacos about
>>                     FPGAs, this (Blackboard) looks rather
>>                     interesting.  It's not costly, and has some neat
>>                     peripherals.
>>
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>>
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