iPhone Apps: Roll your Own ?

[John Teller]

Having to absorb yet another lexicon was more annoying to me than 
anything else.  I could give a rat's patootie about the purity of a 
language's Object Orientation, I'd just like to get my project done 
without requiring indoctrination into some pseudo-secret society.  
Besides, people write crappy, unmaintainable code in any language - 
never mind how glowingly its evangelists may speak to the contrary.

I think people like Jack Crenshaw et. al. would have a bone or two to 
pick about C++ not being a "real" OO language.  C++ produces rather 
efficient native code and can be very straight forward to work with and 
maintain, especially without all the arcana that interviewers love to 
use in tripping up prospective programmers.

BTW that Stroustroup "interview" has long ago achieved the status of 
Legendary Chestnut.

---JST

Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
> John Teller <jsteller at spottydog.us> writes:
>
>   
>> I've had a crash course (OJT) in Objective C and really don't
>> understand why they didn't just use C++.  I suppose it's like
>> Microsoft and C#. 
>>     
>
> They didn't do it just to be different; it's the result of over 20
> years of software development going back to NeXT.  Being reasonably
> facile in both (and finding both lacking when compared to real OO
> programming languages like Lisp and Smalltalk), I have to say I prefer
> Objective C.
>
>   
>> The development environment is actually quite nice,
>> and except for the fact that the key press sequences I'm used to using
>> in Windows and Linux are completely different in Mac space, I like it
>> a lot.
>>     
>
> This one will sneak up on you - in the Mac developer community there's
> a reasonably fascist human interface guidelines contingent, which will
> actively hunt you down and humiliate you if you don't use the standard
> command key shortcuts.  As a result, they tend to be identical across
> different software by different authors.  Not so with Windows or
> Linux, though in the past few years Windows has gotten a lot better on
> that count.  Then again, they had nowhere to go but up.
>
>   
>> For the most part the development is pretty similar to any other GUI
>> based system.  The one new concept I did learn from this experience is
>> the Model-View-Controller architecture the whole system is based on.
>> It's a good system, and does a pretty good job preventing the code
>> from glomming together like so much of the Windows code I used to work
>> on.
>>     
>
> Well, yes.  And to be fair, it's not C++.  That helps.
> http://flinflon.brandonu.ca/dueck/1997/62285/stroustroup.html
>
>   
>> And despite the draconian efforts Apple goes to in order to limit
>> applications, there are plenty of alternate venues.
>>     
>
> Apple's not perfect, but as they say, it sure beats the alternatives.
>
> -r
>
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